I said it after the first....Argentina's defence is really really poor. Even England's was better.

Quote from el pibe :

f*cking nazis.....

it was offside

Not even close, can't be offside if you are behind the ball. He was behind the ball when it was played into the 6 yard box.

Quote from 5haz :

Come on Argentinahhh!

Only a matter of time.

Yep correct only a maater of time

2-0 Germany.

Germany need to tighten things up and slow the game down...currently far to open and playing straight into Argentina hands.

Also the German keeper is starting the worry me...

Quote from G!NhO :

I am cheering for him so he will score a goal.

I think there is more of a chance of Scotland scoring in the World Cup than Messi.

Only about 4 of them where offside.

BTW thinking about backing a red card in this match.

Argentina defence is pish...really reallly pish.

track the runner always, and keeper could have done a lot better

Back on topic, big game coming up. Going for a German win after Extra Time

Quote from SAxor :

I know, thats why I said("some select football players"). Generalizing is bad and half of what I'm saying is in jest.

Quote from SAxor :

Football/soccer, a gentlemans sport played by hooligans and the less educated(because its so simple they can).

Well sure looks like everything you are saying seems to be generalizing and full sweeping.

Quote from SAxor :

You just need one interview with some select football players to see the lack of action in that head.

Click here to see how wrong you are.

While some footballers aint that bright, to claim that all are dumb (as you are doing) is well.....pretty dumb it's self.

Also not mentioned there, but regulary mentioned on Soccer Saturday on Sky is the good Doctor Kenny Deuchar, currently of Falkirk, who can be a full time Doctor.

Quote from Intrepid :

It would be impossible to regulate.

Is there a difference between deliberate and non-deliberate hand ball?? What if the handball stopped the ball but it was going wide anyway?? Unlike like a goal across a line this is not a black and white case.

The ruling atm is about right in my opinion. If you want to stop the ball with you hand then you get an instant red-card and there's a penalty. Injustice??? Well don't shoot the ball near the defender and if you do don't miss the penalty!

Well yes there is. If the ref deems the arm to be in a a natural position when the ball strikes then no foul, however if the ref thinks the hand is in an unnatural position (i.e. a deliberate movement to the ball) then foul and appropriate action taken, that is the advice given to the refs in determining if a handball offennce is indead wohty of a foul. And you all though that the FIA ruling was screwy....ain't got nothing on FIFA

imo, the ruling should be made simple, just like the offside rule needs to be simplified. Hits your hand/or arm (up to the tip of the elbow) = Handball, likewise if any player is offside regardless if they are interfering with play or not = offside.

Last edited by Mackie The Staggie, Sat 3 Jul 2010, 00:12.

Quote from BreadC :

flaming hot xD

mmm munchies....I have 15 mins for before the local kebab shop shuts. Time for a phone call.

Back on Topic - Ghana screwed thier chance, however I feel the winner will be the winner of the other semi-final.

Quote from BreadC :

im opposite xD

i had couple of monsters

...Munch? Hope it's the pickled onion. (thank god they have referted to the old style again)

While to a certain extent I agree with ATC Quicksilver re Suarez, I still would have expected my player to do the same. However I would like to point out this small fact.

Suarez could have headed that ball, hell he even made the movement to do that as it struck his hand. Pure instinct and nothing deepely sinster.

Quote from BreadC :

too slow xD

I've had a few Magners....leave me alone.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Mourinho is at Inter, not Real Madrid, lol. As much as I dislike A. Cole I think he is right in what he says....

Not very bright are you

either that or you just bury your head in the sand.

Quote from JJ72 :

Another penalty not given......the refs are messing up the game.

Seriously, I know it was a penalty but that was nigh on impossible for the ref to spot and give. Even the assistant couldn't give it as his view would have been blocked by the players. Give the refs a break.

Uruguay no 4.....now officially hates gravity.

Thats going to result in the mother of all headaches come the morning

Quote from der butz :

hooray somehow...

der "no revenge for football games please" butz

Don't worry about it, the Scots, Welsh and Irish (any Irish coming?) will all stand tall with our German cousins...

Quote from StableX :

Who from here is going to give the Lotus at Silverstone a go a week on Saturday?

Thinking about it, been doing a couple laps and I'm hitting rough laps around 1:28.xxx, might set up a server this weekend for practise with other cars...I learn better when there are other cars on the tracks with me.

Turns out I was doing the full tack, completly forgetting it is the Historic track.....oops

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Quote from Bob Smith :

Hey, that's not bad for you, it's quite good for you in fact. It's the falling that isn't so good...

Technically falling is ok as well....its the sudden impact on the rocks which is going to get you (or into the shark infested pool if you are doing extreme rock climbing)

Quote from Boris Lozac :

Can someone explain me the reason for that red card for Portugal? Just looked the higlihgts 5 times, and i can't believe the call.. nobody touched him

Hard to tell, from the close up angles we don't see anything of serious note. However there where some wider angles (mainly the one from the touchline) which showed the Portugal player make a run from behind and as he went by the 11 of Spain raise his elbow as if to block the Spanish player and it seemed as if he did catch him with the elbow.

Now under the laws of the game, if a player strikes his opponent (i.e. punch, slap...even tickle) deliberately above the chest then it is a straight red card. The ref obviously felt it was a deliberate motion towards the Spanish no.11, connecting above the chest and had no other choice but to show the red, regardless of how little contact was made. The problem is that TV pictures aren't conclusive enough for us to make a solid call, the close up missed the point of impact while the zoomed out picture's make it hard to see how strong a hit was made (if any)

Yes the no.11 made a meal of it (not going to deny that), but no more than the other 99.9999% of the players at the world cup would have done. I'm now past the stage of moaning about it. I'm happy enough to cheer a penalty County may have won because our player took a dive, to complain about it when the boot is on the other foot seems rather hypocritical to me.

Quote from de Souza :

Awesome goal!

Offsided though? They never showed the replay...

Could be, depends upon what you class as phases of play, whether he got back on side and if the part of the body which could score the ball was offside or not...

...got to love the offside rule eh, simple in it's aim, complicated by FIFA.

Portugal are so negative tonight and have been since the start of the World Cup, yet they have had the best chance of the match purely down to the fact that Spain can't do the simpe things in defence right.

Spain need to get Torres off now, he's brutal at the moment and providing nothing to the team.

Quote from Mp3 Astra :

It's a fair point, but if there's an opportunity to decrease the errors that the officials makes, surely it should be taken!

At what cost to the game. Unlike other games football doesn't have such a natural break in it. Video evidence used in rugby is always after a ball has been grounded and the players stop. Even then, rugby refs are now starting to call on the video evidence for simple decisions, even those that are blatantly obvious.

Quote from Mp3 Astra :

People have been setting fire to stuff by accident for years, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't invest in fire-proofing technologies (best analogy ever).

Worst analogy ever...even by your standards

Quote from Mp3 Astra :

I'm sure you're not saying that we shouldn't have the technology, but since there's such a strong case for it, there's no excuse for not having it.

But not video technology. It can not be implemented throughout the leagues fairly...as a result using video evidence on selected competitions becomes even more dangerous. Even the chip in the ball is not as practical as first seems.

Football is as it is, teams will benefit and lose out...it's the nature of the game as we know.